Sorry to be such a Debbie Downer, folks!

Bluesuze, when I opened Teamsugar just now (6:30 pm est), I saw this video posted by you and want to respond to it -
however, the last time I responded to one of your posts, I was told I was NOT suppose to respond because you did not invite opinion contrary to yours & Barrack Hussein Obama supporters.

Allow me to add a quote from Robert Louis Stevenson:

"To hold the same views at forty as we held at twenty is to have been stupefied for a score of years, and take rank, not as a prophet, but as an unteachable brat, well birched and none the wiser."

Man, that's scary. But the video does a nice job of laying it out.

Pamela, great quote. I'm in my 30s and am even more liberal than I was in my 20s, so it looks like I'm on the right track!

Hussein is just a name. Get over it.

Barrack Hussein Obama

Pamela do you make sure to use McCain's middle name as well?

This makes some very valid points, but it also has a bit of a fear-mongering vibe. This isn't a partisan issue. It is one we should all be concerned with. People have been saying ethanol was a bad idea for years for just this reason. Shortage.

And I was tapping my toes to the beat and my damn cat attacked them! :kitty: Good thing he has no front claws!

Wren, there's countries who are totally liberal so you might enjoy going there to live -- say Russia or China.

Now, I am ready to comment & will be brief.

Cut PORK, Kill terrorist.

that's the plan.

Great vid.. very scary.

Cat attacked your feet

Here we go again.

Yes, Pamela, it's a free country and you can post wherever you like. But you should be aware of the group you are posting you. You posted in a group called BARACK OBAMA CAMPAIGN 08 AND ONWARD for Obama Supporters. Here's the description of that group, in case you weren't aware:

This group was created with the intention of showing your unwavering support for Barack Obama and his campaign to become the next President of the United States of America. You are welcome to discuss anything concerning Mr. Obama, I encourage any form of material: comic strips, news articles, blog entries, photographs, your personal opinions; whatever you please. Let's try to keep it positive around here also, no bashing each other and most importantly, please keep any overt criticisms of Barack Obama to a minimum. Thank you!

I'm always aware of the group that I'm posting to when I comment. For instance, let's say I was going to post in a group called, oh, I don't know, how about "The Nicole Kidman Fan Club For Life!!" and post in a blog that I think Nicole is a no talent hack that has more botox in her face to last the next millenium. I mean, I could, it's a free country, but it just wouldn't be very nice now, would it?

All I asked is if I could comment on the video and right away I am ganged up on. Is it ok for other points of views to comment? I am asking nicely?

Wren, absolutely use John McCain's entire name. Not a problem.

Pamela, your 'Barrack Hussein Obama' comment was clearly derogatory. Like blue said, Tree Huggers & Barrack Obama 08 created (for the most part) for Obama supporters. Indie made the group because we had an absolutely ridiculous experience with Obama haters on the site and realized we needed a place that we could openly (and without criticism) discuss Obama and politics in general.

Having your own opinion is great and if you want to share it in a mature and respectful manner (and feel it is imperative that you share it in one of the liberal blogs) also great.. But I am sure you are intelligent enough to realize that opening your comment with 'Barrack Hussein Obama' will be seen as provocative.. to say the least.

Nobody is ganging up on you for wanting to share your opinion, but if you feel the need to 'Barrack Hussein Obama'.. take it to Conservative Sugar, please

Thanks and have a great day

Great & thank you for the explanation Bluesuze. My first post a few days ago was just an opinion. I did not think it was against the rules to state my thoughts.

I would very much like to add my comments as I think there are many who are not informed of opposing ideology They watch the Hollywood types i.e. Justin Timberlake and P'Diddy, Sean Penn etc and are manipulated by silly endorsements by their favorite "stars".

In fact, everyone thinks CEOs are "overpaid" but see if PDiddy, Madonna, Oprah, famous athletics or wealthy lawyers would like to have their incomes capped say at $500,000 annually or want the government to take away a large portion of their money to redistribute. Comments?

One more quick remark with all due respect: why are you suggesting it is disrespectful to use Obama's FULL name?

Pamela I'm not 'suggesting' that it is disrespectful, I am flat out saying it. If you were using full names for every person that you speak about it would be another story.. but as you are obviously using his middle name to (try to somehow God knows how, but whatever..) tie him to a *certain* someone, yes, it is disrespectful.

Again, take it elsewhere please

Man that just kills me. Shew.

Yeah, we pretty much just wait for our favorite celebrities to let us know who they are voting for, and then vote that way. That's what this group is about, right?

Sorry, seriously, I won't use his full name if it upsets you so much. I wonder if his name upsets him? I actually hate my middle name so I can sympathize.

Again,

(1) do you think we should cap the salaries of high paid stars like P Diddy & Madonna; or mega high paid athletics like Alex Rodriguez, or fat cat politicians and trial lawyers?

(2) do you actually think that they want their income redistributed by the government?

We could just put it all in a big pot and divide it out to everyone

Pam he is not introduced as Barack Hussein Obama first of all. Second of all you are using the Hussein to allude to the fact that he is Mulism or a terrorist I am not sure of your intentions with it.

You are also right about the celeb endorsements I don't make a move until Diddy tells me too.

Actually, I only do what Matt Damon tells me to do!

Well I do let Lohan influence me some as well.

Let's get back on point.

Being the rocket scientists that they are: Lohan, Damon & Diddy want their incomes capped?

or redistributed?

I was so bummed that Lindsay didn't have that Obama party. I totally wanted to go!

Yeah, so his middle name is Hussein. That's a fact.

Isn't it also a fact that McCain graduated in the bottom 3 of his class? So should I go on a McCain support group and call him a dumbass?

Yeah I was bobbing my head to the beat... but in the end, I was dissapointed because it offered no possible solutions at the end...I mean, at least speculate/just pontificate/point me to another site, idk. Lol. So.... I guess it's wrong if my only repsonse is "I totally noticed that corn is way more expensive lately!" ?

"If the lion lies down with the lamb, the lamb must be replaced frequently." --Attributed to Martin Luther In the immediate aftermath of the terrorist violence of September 11, 2001.

Huh????

speaking of grades...glad you brought that up grades. Obama refuses to release from his "grades" his colleges.

but stop changing the subject....please someone....

Do the multi gazillionaire movie stars & rock stars & sports figures want their incomes CAPPED? how about $5 million dollar a year lawyers?

or redistributed?

And Great Sommelier, I agree with you one hundred percent that this is a non-partisan issue. Thank you.

Yes blue you should!!!

My response in in comment #19

Pam WTF are you talking about???? Why is that an issue you are trying to discuss?

Ok, I will answer the questions:

capping and redistributing income is nothing more than pure SOCIALISM.

With all due respect, be assured that the rock, movie & athletic stars, lawyers, fat cat politicians etc do not want their incomes capped or redistributed.

easy questions easy answers.

Redistribution of wealth is what Obama stands for. A vote for Obama is a vote for redistribution of wealth.

Did you find that written down somewhere or did you just make that up?

sexylibrarian. I'd think that you would have a larger vocabulary - using foul language is not very scholarly for a librarian.

back on point.

and again, I am concerned about our countries future as all of you.

Capped salaries? good idea?

redistribution? good idea?

No one here ever said that they thought those were good ideas did they? Thank you for the lesson in language and the insult. Keep feeding that stereotype!

Umm, do you mean redistribution of wealth because they will pay higher taxes?

Best bet for future discussions....do not engage!!! It solves A LOT of problems.

I am starting to think you are right, tiabia.

I know you are right but I can't help it tia!

Wren there has been a lot of discussion that Obama wants to cap salaries of CEOs because they are he thinks that are paid excessively high salaries.

So, in fairness- shouldn't we also cap the salaries of other very very highly paid profession such as:

The News media:ie Katie Couric makes millions
Rock Stars?
Movie Stars?
Talk show hosts like David Letterman, Oprah
Judge Judy? have you seen how much she makes?
Trial Lawyers?
Fat cat politicians?
Football/baseball/basketball/golf stars?

and

after capping the salary at some arbitrary figure decided by the government I guess- then should we take what is left of their income & cut it down again and redistribute it?

It is a very fair question.

I was under the impression that idea was from Congress because of the bailout, and that both Obama and McCain agreed with it.

Hahahahahahahaa @ every Pam comment in this post

Ditto to Tia, especially in a case like this its best to just i g n o r e.

Hahahaha every single comment ignores everything else said and basically goes..

'Salary capping is wrong! Do you agree with salary capping? OK I will answer for you, salary capping is wrong! Obama Hussein is a socialist! Salary capping is wrong!'

We.

Get.

Your.

Point.

Woman.

Let.

It.

Go.

She's probably worried about Nicole Kidman's salary getting capped

and you people can vote? we are doomed.

Again (and now more than EVER) please PLEASE take that to Conservative Sugar